
Iraq Watch
Karl Rove - The Unnamed Source?
July 13, 2005
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under the Speaker's announced
policy of January 4, 2005, the gentleman from Washington (Mr. Inslee) is
recognized for 60 minutes as the designee of the minority leader.
Mr. INSLEE. Mr. Speaker, I come to the House floor today as
part of the ongoing effort of myself and some of my colleagues in an endeavor
we style the Iraq Watch. The Iraq Watch is a group of Members who are committed
to the principle that we should not forget the Iraq war, a war started based
on false information and based on the principle that Members of Congress
owe it to the American citizens to continue our inquiry, to continue our
critique, continue to review the operations of the administration in the
initiation and the prosecution of the efforts in Iraq.
We do so because we have a heartfelt and deep belief that we
owe this to our troops in the field who are performing with valor and distinction
in Iraq; we owe it to American citizens whose sons and daughters and wives
and husbands have been called away to Iraq; we owe it to those who believe
that the prosecution of war should not result in the reduction of American
civil liberties; and we do it in the name of those who believe that even
during the fear and anxiety caused by war that we still as citizens must
demand our elected officials recognize and respect basic matters of American
democracy.
In these issues, the effort we have been involved with for over
a year now about once every couple of weeks, we believe that the administration
regrettably has fallen very, very short of what American citizens ought to
demand of their Federal Government. So today, in a continuing series of the
Iraq Watch, we intend to talk about several aspects leading up to the war
and a matter that has now become of very great public interest.
If I may note, it is with great sadness I note the passing of
an American Marine today in operations in Iraq, to add that proud Marine
to the names of over 1,750 Americans who have lost their lives in Iraq, the
over 13,000 Americans who have had very serious injuries in Iraq and to those
families who will not have their family members coming home. I know every
Member of this Chamber of both parties, our thoughts, prayers and compassion
are with every one of those families.
It is in part because of their continuing sacrifice in Iraq
that we feel very strongly that Members of the House of Representatives have
an obligation, a duty not to just let things slide by, to let this administration
just sort of pass by unchallenged and uncriticized in the prosecution of
this war. We believe this Chamber, which is the people's House, has an obligation
to blow the whistle when things are done wrong, to force the administration
to fess up to mistakes they have made, and to hopefully get back on track
in this Nation where we are seriously off track at the moment.
What I would like to talk about in Iraq Watch today is a very
serious issue that resulted in part on the initiation of this war, and that
is that leading up to this war, the administration, the President of the
United States, exercised their best efforts to convince Americans that Iraq
had or was very close to developing a nuclear capacity and that this was
a primary rationale for the President of the initiation of the war in Iraq.
Indeed, in the President's State of the Union address standing
right behind me in this Chamber, the President of the United States addressed
the joint session of Congress, the Supreme Court, the Joint Chiefs, members
of the Cabinet, and most importantly the American people; and he told the
American people that our intelligence services had learned that Iraq had
in fact obtained what is called uranium yellow cake, and he told the American
people that this was well established. This yellow cake is a mineral from
which uranium fissionable material can be developed, it is a precursor to
an atomic weapon, and its acquisition would be of concern to the American
people.
The President told the American people that this was a fact,
that there was no doubt about this fact and that as a result of that, he
led this Nation, against many of our positions against the war, myself included,
in a war based on what turned out to be false information. We know it is
false information for two reasons: one, because we have now gone through
the most extensive search for weapons of mass destruction in human history
in Iraq and found zero, zero yellow cake, zero precursors to nuclear weapons,
zero triggering devices for nuclear weapons, zero indication that the things
the President had told us were fact, in fact, turned out to be falsehoods
and a war has resulted and 1,700 of our sons and daughters have paid the
ultimate sacrifice in the sands of Iraq and that is continuing.
We had an earlier notice that this was false. The earlier notice
we had was because the Central Intelligence Agency had concerns about this
issue. Before the President's State of the Union address, they had received
some suggestions that this was not fact and in fact was hyperbole at best
and in fact that this claim about yellow cake may have been false.
So they dispatched a gentleman who had previously served with
distinction in the Foreign Service, a gentleman named Joe Wilson, to Niger
from which this yellow cake was supposedly obtained by Saddam Hussein, this
brutal thug, this dictator who had caused so much damage in the world; and
Joe Wilson, continuing in many of his patriotic duties, went to Niger to
investigate this claim. What Mr. Wilson found was that this claim was, in
laymen's terms, bogus. He came back to the United States and he reported
to the agency that in fact this was a fraudulent claim, there was not a basis
for it, it was highly unlikely that any such transaction took place and highly
unlikely that Saddam Hussein had obtained yellow cake. He issued a written
report in that regard, or a written report was generated from his report.
Yet despite the fact that an agent dispatched by our government
went to Niger, the scene of this alleged crime, and reported back that this
was a falsehood, the President of the United States told the American people
that this was one basis that we had to send our sons and daughters into mortal
combat in Iraq; and it was flat, plain false.
Why did that happen? Before I tell you a little bit about the
story that occurred after that, I want to tell you just a little bit about
Joe Wilson. Joe Wilson has served with distinction in the State Department.
Joe Wilson is a guy who does not fit the mold of a person with sort of a
pinstriped suit. He is a foreign diplomat who, to use the vernacular in the
main street, has guts. Joe Wilson was the last American State Department
official out of Iraq before the Persian Gulf War; and he was responsible,
according to the first President Bush who honored him for his work leading
up to the first Persian Gulf war when he was stationed in Baghdad, he was
honored for helping save scores of Americans to get them out of Baghdad before
the first Persian Gulf war started because, as you recall, Saddam Hussein
had threatened Americans, to kill them when the war started when they were
still in Baghdad.
Saddam Hussein essentially threatened with death anyone who
helped Americans get out of Baghdad before the first Persian Gulf war. Joe
Wilson, who was sort of our agent in charge of the embassy in Baghdad then,
went down and held a press conference with a rope around his neck and said,
you can come get me first, Saddam, because I am taking my people home. That
is exactly what he did. He faced down that brutal dictator at the cost potentially
of his own life to help American lives.
It was interesting. I just met a woman by accident 2 weeks ago
who served in the Foreign Service who told me that Joe once went, and just
before the war, to take care of some children who had been moved back to
Iraq from the United States, to try to save them before the war started at
great risk to his own life. Joe Wilson is a guy with guts who stood up for
American lives and did it when he went to Niger to report on this yellow
cake, who reported accurately, who served his country; and the President
of the United States, after he gave him the truth, got up, stood right there
and told the American people that there was yellow cake from Niger and it
was false. Joe Wilson is someone we owe a debt of gratitude to.
What has happened to Joe Wilson since he told the truth about
the President's war in Iraq? Did this administration give accolades to this
Joe Wilson the way the first President Bush did? No. Did they call him up
and thank him for pointing out this error in the State of the Union address?
No. Was a letter sent by the President of the United States to thank him
for his courage in standing up to Saddam Hussein like the first President
Bush did? No. Did the President of the United States or the State Department
or Scott McClellan or anyone else thank Joe Wilson for his contribution for
telling the truth to the American people? No.
What did this administration do to this citizen who shared the
truth with the American people? It is a sad story, but I am going to share
it with you and you know it. What they did was to go after his wife to try
to damage her, to hurt her career, to punish Joe Wilson for pointing out
the truth. We should expect any administration, Democrat, Republican or whatever
party, to punish lies, not to punish the truth. But this administration punished
a truth-teller and frankly an American, maybe hero is too strong, but I think
it approaches, a guy who showed some real courage under fire in Baghdad once
before and in Niger a second time and they punished him. They punished him.
They could not get to him, so they went after his wife.
I do not know what is a lower thing to do under the code of
the West in American Western Civilization, to go after a truth-teller's wife,
to punish them when he has told the truth and spoken the truth to power.
It is difficult to speak truth to power and Joe Wilson did it,
and look at what he got as a result. What he got was essentially an outing
of his wife who news reports suggest worked for the Central Intelligence
Agency as a covert agent, an agent undercover, and what he got were press
reports because of an administration we now know leaks intentional leaks
to the media to disclose that Joe Wilson's wife worked for the Central Intelligence
Agency.
What a ``thank you'' to an American who did something at the
request of this administration. What a great note of appreciation to essentially,
number one, destroy his wife's career because once one is outed in the CIA,
of course, they cannot be a covert agent anymore, number one; number two,
potentially jeopardize her safety when she has been a covert agent working
on weapons of mass destruction issues; number three, jeopardize the people
whom she worked with who now could be suspect in her covert operations; and,
number four, damage the national security of the United States by compromising
a CIA agent, which this administration did.
Now, who did this in this administration? There has been some
suggestion about that. There has been some suggestion that one, at least
of the administration people who did this, is the Deputy Chief of Staff of
the White House, and that Deputy Chief of Staff, when questions were raised
a long time ago about that, about whether the Deputy Chief of Staff had,
in fact, disclosed this information, let us ask as Americans whether this
administration upheld its obligation to us to tell the truth. We elect the
President of the United States. It is an exalted and important position,
but they do work for us, and they owe us the obligation of truth in matters
of national security.
Let us find out what the President's officials and the administration
officials told Americans about this subject in the last several years, whether
the Deputy Chief of the White House was responsible for or involved in any
way in this issue. We have a briefing on July 22, 2003, a briefing where
Scott McClellan, who is the press secretary for the President, on July 22,
2003, in the White House, a question was asked: ``Scott, has there ever been
an attempt or effort on the part of anyone here at the White House to discredit
the reputations or reporting of former Ambassador Joe Wilson, his wife, or
ABC correspondent Jeffrey Kofman?''
McClellan: ``John, I think I answered that yesterday. That is
not the way that this White House operates. That's not the way the President
operates ..... No one would be authorized to do that within this White House.
That is simply not the way we operate, and that's simply not the way the
President operates.''
We would like the administration not to operate that, to leak
information about CIA agents, to punish somebody who told the truth. We will
see a little later in this conversation whether they did.
July 23, 2003, answer by Mr. McClellan, when asked if Karl Rove
did that, Mr. McClellan said, ``I haven't heard that. That's just totally
ridiculous. But we've already addressed this issue. I just said, it's totally
ridiculous.''
We go on to an interview with Mr. Rove on September 6, 2003,
Andrea Owen of ABC asked Mr. Rove, ``Did you have any knowledge or did you
leak the name of a CIA agent to the press?''
Rove: ``No.''
September 29, 2003, again to Mr. McClellan: ``Has the President
either asked Karl Rove to assure him that he had nothing to do with this,
or did Karl Rove go to the President to assure him that he ..... ''
McClellan: ``I don't think he needs that. I think I've spoken
clearly to this publicly ..... I've just said there's no truth to it.''
Question: ``Yes. But I'm just wondering if there was a conversation
between Karl Rove and the President or if he just talked to you and you're
here at this ..... ''
McClellan. ``He wasn't involved. The President knows he wasn't
involved.''
Question: ``How does he know that?''
McClellan. ``The President knows.''
We now have at least four instances where the President of the
United States, through his spokesperson, has told us that the Deputy Chief
of Staff was not involved in any way, in any way, at disclosing this information
to destroy a CIA agent's career. But it is not just four times.
On September 29, 2003, question to Mr. McClellan: ``Weeks ago,
when you were first asked whether Mr. Rove had the conversation with Robert
Novak that produced the column, you dismissed it as ridiculous. And I wanted
just to make sure, at that time, had you talked to Karl?''
Answer by McClellan: ``I've made it very clear from the beginning
that it is totally ridiculous. I've known Karl for a long time, and I didn't
even need to go ask Karl because I know the kind of person that he is, and
he is someone that is committed to the highest standards of conduct.''
A question to the President. Essentially people are starting
to ask what will the President do when he finds out who leaked this information.
Well, let us find out what the President said he would do.
On September 30, 2003, question: ``Yesterday we were told that
Karl Rove had no role in it ..... ''
The President: ``Yes.''
Question: ``Have you talked to Karl and do you have confidence
in him .....''
The President: ``Listen, I know of nobody--I don't know of anybody
in my administration who leaked classified information. If somebody did leak
classified information, I'd like to know it, and we'll take the appropriate
action.''
October 1, McClellan: ``The President doesn't condone the activity
that you're suggesting, absolutely he does not.''
October 7, and I will skip the question for a moment. McClellan:
``I spoke with those individuals, as I pointed out, and those individuals
assured me that they were not involved in this.'' And that included Karl
Rove, Elliot Abrams, and Lewis Libby. ``And that's where it stands.''
Question: ``So none of them told any reporter that Valerie Plame
worked for the CIA?''
McClellan: ``They assured me that they were not involved in
this.''
So the President subsequently said he would do what he should
do if he found someone was involved in any way in leaking information. He
said he would fire them. And when he was in Europe last week, when he was
asked what he would do if he found that out, when asked if he would fire
them, he said yes. So we have this situation where we now find, through hard
evidence admitted by the lawyer for the Deputy Chief of Staff, that, in fact,
Mr. Rove told Mr. Cooper, a news reporter, that, in fact, he told him that
Joe Wilson's wife worked through for the Central Intelligence Agency.
And for 2 years now, the official position of the President
of the United States telling the American people has said, My Deputy Chief
of Staff had nothing to do with this, never mentioned it, never leaked a
word, never hushed it, never gave an inclination about it, totally ridiculous.
And now we know the sordid truth. And it is sordid. It is sad. We should
be talking about some other things here rather than this. But we believe
that the truth is important to the American people.
Americans deserve the truth. They deserve not to have an administration
to punish Americans who stand up against power, and that is what they did.
We now find phase one a failure of the administration to hush
this up and bury this story. They denied it for 2 years. They said it was
ridiculous for 2 years. They tried to suppress this information for 2 years.
They refused to be candid with the American people for 2 years, and that
approach has failed. So what approach are they now using to try to wiggle
out from this most terrible abuse of our national security? Let us go through
their sort of defenses now.
By the way, it is interesting the White House now refuses to
comment on this. That has not stopped the majority party talk machine from
launching an all-out offensive against Mr. Wilson today. We can read--they're
still defaming Mr. Wilson today. They still have not given up thinking that
if they can destroy Mr. Wilson that we will forget about the falsehood that
the President used in starting this war. We are not going to forget because
this really is not about Mr. Wilson. It is about our sons and daughters in
Iraq. And it is about American democracy and our right to have the President
tell us the truth. And we are not going to forget.
So let us see what strategies they are using now rather than
just suppressing the truth. They are using the strategy that Mr. Rove did
not use the name Valerie Plame. All he said was it was Joe Wilson's wife
who worked at the Central Intelligence Agency; therefore, they think no harm,
no foul. Whom do the Members think they are identifying if not Valerie Plame?
Unless Karl Rove thought that Joe Wilson was a polygamist, had ten wives
so we could not tell which one it was, it is pretty clear whom he was identifying.
Just like I started this Special Order today and I made reference
to the Deputy Chief of Staff at the White House, everyone knew whom I was
talking about. I did not use his name, but we know who it was. That dog just
will not hunt. It is embarrassing. It is embarrassing to try to fall back
on that as some excuse for violating the security laws of the United States.
So that one will not work.
Second, they argued that, well, it was unintentional, did not
really intend to do this. That might be because we all make mistakes, we
all make misstatements, we all misspeak on occasion, myself included. Perhaps
we should just forgive and forget that. Except for one thing. It is clear
it was not. It is clear it was not a simple accident. The reason we know
it was not a simple accident is for 2 years they covered up the truth of
what happened. When people act guilty and suppress the truth, frequently
it means they were guilty. And this was not innocent conduct where for 2
years the White House was saying it was ridiculous that Karl Rove would be
involved in this, ridiculous. I actually think it is ridiculous now that
they are not taking responsibility and being accountable. We should not have
to be arguing about this right now.
They say that they were just explaining, they were just explaining
how Mr. Wilson happened to be in Niger. Mr. Rove could have just explained
very easily by saying some people close to Mr. Wilson knew him and wanted
to send him to Niger. That could have preserved the cover of this CIA agent,
and there would have been no problem.
So what we are seeing is a collapse of excuses. This is a collapse
of a fabricated effort to protect the Deputy Chief of Staff, which I understand.
The Deputy Chief of Staff has been a loyal lieutenant and adviser to the
President of the United States, and we can all, to some degree, respect loyalty.
But when it comes down to a situation where the President is forced, through
his spokesperson, to continue to not tell the truth to the American people,
as it has happened here, it is unhealthy for the administration. It is unhealthy
for America, and this boil needs to get lanced. It needs to get resolved.
We cannot go on with this cloud hanging over the country. It needs resolution.
That is why in the next few days, the gentleman from New Jersey
(Mr. Holt) and myself and other Members will offer a resolution of inquiry
calling on the U.S. House of Representatives to get to the bottom of what
happened in this situation. And this is a very simple thing that will simply
request, actually require, the administration to provide answers to the American
people of what happened here once and for all. We need to get this resolved
and behind us. We need to find a way, a bipartisan way, to bring our troops
home; to find some way to leave Iraq a stable place and bring our troops
home. And we need to be involved in a bipartisan attempt to do this rather
than arguing about this situation.
But until the administration is candid with the American people
and we know why an administration punished an American citizen for, number
one, going to Niger as requested by the CIA; telling the truth to the administration,
number two; three, having the courage to tell the public about it after the
President stated a falsehood during his State of the Union address; and fourth,
refusing to be intimidated, and I respect people who are not intimidated
by power.
Joe Wilson is not intimidated by power. He was not intimidated
in Baghdad, and he is not intimidated now. We will not be intimidated to
get to the bottom of this sordid affair. That is why we hope that on a bipartisan
basis we will pass a resolution of inquiry calling to get answers to what
happened in this sorry situation. Americans deserve it. It will help us move
forward to get to the issues that we need to do.
Now, let me also talk about why perhaps, today and the last
2 days, if you have happened to watch the press conferences at the White
House, you have noticed Mr. McClellan has been besieged by people who wanted
to provide Americans the truth as we now know it about what actually happened
here. Now, after telling us for 2 years, being quite willing to talk about
this, saying this is ridiculous, this was just a fishing expedition, and
that we should not bother with those little people over there in the corner
who want to know the truth about this, now, all of a sudden, Mr. McClellan
does not want to talk about this anymore. Why is that?
You have to ask yourself why, after being so loquacious about this for 2
years, now they do not want to talk about it. Well, I think it is understandable
when you think about it.
Think about this: Mr. McClellan told the American people that
the President knows that the Deputy Chief of Staff was not involved in this,
that it was ridiculous. The Deputy Chief of Staff says, no, I was not involved
in this. The President of the United States says, no, he was not involved
in this, and people who were, we would fire them.
Now, you take those three individuals, somebody is not telling
the truth. Somebody is not being entirely candid with the American people.
The Deputy Chief of Staff is not being candid with the President, perhaps,
or the Deputy Chief of Staff is not being candid with the press secretary,
perhaps, or the press secretary is not being candid with the American people,
perhaps. There is a third possibility, and I am not even going to suggest
it on the floor of this House. But somebody is not being candid with the
American people about why an American was punished for doing his duty when
he was asked to go to Niger.
I mean, you think about that. You imagine if the Federal Government
tomorrow called you and said, I have this tough task. I want you to go to
Africa where it is dusty and hot and a big day is when you get some sugar
in your tea, and I want you to find out if there is yellow cake there because
we are trying to decide whether to start a war or not. It is a big, big deal.
And you go there, essentially out of retirement, and you bring back the truthful
answer, and you give it to the administration. They then ignore your conclusion
and put it in the State of the Union address anyway, a war is talked about
to be started; you have the guts enough to write an op-ed in The New York
Times telling America what you concluded, and, all of a sudden, the entire
Federal Government comes after you and destroys your wife's career. That
should not happen to any American of any political persuasion. And that principle
is an important one.
This is not the only time this has happened in America. You
recall back in the Vietnam era where there was an author who was critical
of President Nixon's war in Vietnam, Daniel Ellsberg; and he published in
The New York Times some information that was critical of the President. So
what did the President do? Did he thank him for sharing this information
with the public? No. He had people burglarize Daniel Ellsberg's psychiatrist's
office in order to get information to destroy Daniel Ellsberg's credibility.
That President tried to destroy their critic's credibility, and that is what
happened here. A different way, a different strategy, a different effort,
same goal: punish critics of the administration.
We went through a Revolutionary War to get rid of King George
because we believed citizens rule the country and when citizens exercise
their right of free speech and they tell the truth, nobody here in Washington,
D.C. ought to be able to punish them. It was a principle worth going to the
Revolutionary War about it. And in a small way, we are fighting it right
here: that if you are a citizen and you tell the truth, nobody should be
able to punish you, even the most powerful person in America. That is why
we are filing this resolution of inquiry.
Mr. Speaker, I would like to yield to the gentleman from New
Jersey (Mr. Holt), who has provided great leadership and who was working
on this subject last year to try to bring to the attention of the country
this issue. He has shown a lot of courage on this. I thank the gentleman
for joining us today.
Mr. HOLT. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman, my friend
from Washington, for this Special Order and for shining a light on this subject.
The gentleman is right, this is something, it is curious. I have been trying
for a couple of years to draw sharp attention to this, to this exposure of
the identity of someone whom we have asked to undertake risky, dangerous,
important assignments for quite a long time.
The press seemed very interested in this other issue of their
ability to protect their sources, not an unimportant issue, but something
apart from this critical issue of how we as a country collect intelligence,
what we as a country ask of people who risk their lives to collect that intelligence,
and what we do about protecting their ability to do it and protecting their
lives and welfare.
This is a very important matter. Former President Bush, the
current President's father, said that those who expose our human sources
are ``the most insidious of traitors.'' Ten former intelligence officers
signed a letter calling the disclosure of this particular officer's identity
``a shameful and unprecedented event in American history.'' It is an uncommon
occurrence, and for good reason. Thank goodness, it is uncommon.
Intelligence is intended to save lives. Intelligence is intended
to protect our national security. Intelligence is intended to be something
that prevents us from going to war. But to collect that intelligence, people
have to take great risks. Operating undercover, perhaps under an alias, dealing
with people in out-of-the-way places is often a thankless job. We do not
often acknowledge the people who do that. It is a terrible thing when their
effectiveness is lost through some accident. It is even worse when they are
exposed by the counterintelligence people in another country.
But worst of all, of almost unthinkable tragedy, is when a person
would be exposed by his or her own government. Mr. Speaker, it is not just
a matter of ruining a career, it is not just a matter of an affront to a
person or her spouse, it is not just the loss of probably millions of dollars
that goes into developing an undercover agent, providing the cover and all
that.
No, it is more than the ruined career, more than the loss to
our Nation of effective intelligence. It actually puts that person at risk.
And anyone who ever had lunch with that person in a foreign country is now
suspected by that country as having been fraternizing with a spy. We do not
know what has happened to other people in other countries because of exposure
of identities of intelligence officers. That an exposure should come from
our own country is almost unthinkable.
So when we raise this subject today, it is not about political
``gotcha''; it is not to embarrass someone. No. It is because we as a Congress
have a responsibility to look after these people whom we have asked to take
great risks. And we have to make sure that this sort of thing does not happen.
That is why we want to know what happened and how it happened. It is, well,
like someone sending an e-mail to the enemy with a position of our troops
on the map. You do not do that at wartime. That is treasonous.
Today, the members of the House Permanent Select Committee on
Intelligence on which I sit submitted a letter to the President, again underscoring
the importance of this matter, abhorring the disclosure of identities of
undercover officers, and asking that the President take the step of removing
the security clearance from anyone known to have any association with this.
We certainly know that Karl Rove, as acknowledged through his attorney, that
he disclosed the identity, maybe not by name, but he might as well have;
the identity of an intelligence officer to a reporter of a national news
magazine.
Because the officer was undercover, her identity could be known
only through access to classified information. There is ample precedent for
suspending the security clearances of people under suspicion of leaking classified
information. So we formally and soberly asked the President to suspend any
and all of Mr. Rove's security clearances, at least and until the Fitzgerald
investigation is complete. That is just one step.
But we here in Congress have an important role beyond that,
a role of oversight to make sure that we, as I say, look after the welfare,
effectiveness, and safety of those whom we have asked to take risks for our
country so that we can know what is going on around the world, so we can
avoid war, so that we can save lives, so that we can advance democracy.
I thank my colleague from Washington for this Special Order;
and I hope, now that the country's attention is focused on this subject,
that we really can get to the bottom of it. The President said at first that
he would find and fire this person. Then a little bit later he said, you
know, it is going to be really hard to find the person.
This is the same President who said we will find Osama bin Laden, wherever
he is in the world. But among the 5,000 people in the White House, I am going
to have a hard time finding out who it was who leaked this. Well, we know
at least one person in the White House now who was party to this. The President
should take action so that this sort of thing will never happen again.
Mr. INSLEE. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from New
Jersey. I have to say, one of the troublesome things to me now that this
disclosure has come up, here the person, at least one, there might be more
people who are responsible for this besides the Deputy Chief of Staff; there
may be more than one, but at least one was a person who talks to the President
at least several times a day. I cannot understand when this came out why
the President did not demand his inner circle to give him an affidavit saying
they were not involved in this, and get to the heart of this.
Instead, the President of the United States, who works across
the desk from the gentleman who is at least one of the people responsible
for this leak, the most powerful man in the world could not get a straight
answer. Now, if he did not get a straight answer on this important thing,
then the President should exercise what he promised the American people he
would do, which is to send that person on to other pursuits, and we will
see whether the President meant what he said in that regard shortly.
Mr. Speaker, I want to thank the gentleman and mention one other
thing and ask for his response. There is one other excuse that we are hearing
floated about this today, and I have heard some people defending the White
House saying, well, this was not really that big of a deal. We might have
said there was yellow cake in there anyway, because we really did not know;
we would have thrown that up in the State of the Union address anyway.
So no harm, no foul. I want to read something that Secretary
of State Rice said on July 26, 2003, ``My only point is that in retrospect,
knowing that some of the documents underneath may have been, were indeed
forgeries, and knowing that apparently there were concerns swirling around
about this, had we known that at the time, we would not have put it in. And
if there had been even a peep that the Agency did not want that sentence,
or that George Tenet did not want that sentence in, that the Director of
Central Intelligence did not want it in, it would not have been done.''
Here we have the person sent by the CIA to get this information,
reported back these were forgeries, reporting back it is highly unlikely
there is yellow cake there, but the President put it in anyway, and then
Secretary Rice was candid.
She said we should not have put that in. So let us not let this
sort of octopus defense of squirting ink around this thing obscure a central
truth. The President gave false information to the American people, and for
one reason or the another did not report what his own agent, the CIA, had
sent, and then his administration punished that person.
This cries out for action by Congress.
Mr. HOLT. Mr. Speaker, I would say this goes beyond political
punishment. We certainly could condemn his punishing the envoy who went to
learn the truth about the uranium from Niger. But for whatever reason to
disclose the identity of someone whom we have asked to take risks, life and
death risks on our behalf is almost unthinkable.
And to do it for what appear to be gratuitous political reasons
makes it all the more shameful.
Mr. INSLEE. Would it be fair to say that if these assertions
are true, someone put political convenience ahead of national security? I
will make that a rhetorical question.
Mr. HOLT. I cannot imagine why this name would
have been released, but for the sake of creating political embarrassment
for someone. I call that a gratuitous breach of national security.
There does not seem to be any higher purpose here. I suppose
you might be able to imagine some circumstances where for some higher purpose
you probably could dream up something where releasing the identity of, you
know, someone we have put in such a dangerous position might be justifiable,
but this certainly is not it.
Mr. INSLEE. Well, we would stand for the proposition that
political pettiness does not justify a breach of national security. I hope
we can have bipartisan consensus on that.
I would like to yield to the gentleman from New York (Mr. Hinchey).
Mr. HINCHEY. Mr. Speaker, I thank very much the gentleman
from Washington (Mr. Inslee) for bringing this issue to the floor of the
House. I think it is at the moment one of the most important issues that
this Congress should be dealing with, but is not doing so.
As you pointed out, there is a great deal of dissembling going
on within the context of the Bush Administration. And one of the principal
people responsible for that is Mr. Rove. It is quite clear that he revealed
the identity of Valerie Plame, Central Intelligence Agency operative, and
the wife of Ambassador Wilson, to at least one reporter, in this particular
case a reporter for Time Magazine, and that he did so in the context of e-mail.
But it is also very likely that he made that revelation not
just to the reporter for Time Magazine, but to others as well. And it may
very well have been Mr. Rove who made that revelation to Robert Novak, who
was the columnist who published her name and made the revelation that someone
working for the intelligence agency in a very sensitive position now had
that name made public, putting that person in danger.
So the question of the motivation here is one that is very important.
It is quite clear that at least on one level, the motivation was to exact
retribution against Ambassador Wilson, who you have pointed out rightly was
sent by the Central Intelligence Agency to Niger to investigate the question
as to whether or not enriched yellow cake uranium was being transported from
Niger into Iraq.
The President of the United States in this room, in an address
to a joint session of the Congress of the United States, and to the American
people, made the assertion that enriched yellow cake uranium was being imported
from Niger into Iraq, and that created the prospect that Iraq was developing
nuclear weapons.
On numerous occasions, the President, the Vice President, the
National Security Advisor, and others in the administration, used the illustration
of the mushroom cloud in reference to Iraq, to create the impression that
Iraq was developing a nuclear weapon.
Ambassador Wilson, in the context of his trip to Niger, made
it very clear that no yellow cake uranium had been transported from Niger
to Iraq. Nevertheless, the administration continued to allege that that is
not the case, and that Iraq was engaged in a program to develop a nuclear
weapon.
So what we see here in the course of this discussion this afternoon
is another example of the dissembling, the misuse of information by important
people within this administration. And from our point of view, as Members
of the House of Representatives, one of the critical aspects of all of this
is the failure of this House to address this circumstance.
We know that the allegations made by the administration with
regard to the connection between Iraq and the attack of September 11 were
untrue. We know that the allegations concerning the relationship between
Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden were not true. We know that the allegations
with regard to weapons of mass destruction, including the prospects of a
nuclear weapon, were untrue.
Why is it that this House of Representatives is not carrying
out its responsibilities under the Constitution to conduct an investigation
and to hold Congressional hearings with regard to this issue?
Mr. INSLEE. I think you bring a very good point about
Congress's obligation to investigate the executive branch. We do have a checks-and-balances
system here. I think that is very important in this case, because essentially
the President has said, as he said yesterday, look, this is a criminal investigation,
so I have no responsibility whatsoever, he implied this, to find out what
happened here.
He says, you know, there is a prosecutor here, so I have no
responsibility to find out if people who work literally in my office had
outed a security agent for punishment for someone telling the truth.
Whether there was a crime or not, any President, and this President
has said so, should fire a person who discloses secret information of a covert
agent's identity in part to punish a person who told the truth in criticizing
the administration.
Even if that is not a crime, it is a crime against the code
of the west and the expectations of millions of Americans, where we do not
allow our elected officials to punish us for criticizing the administration.
We do not allow a President's agents to jeopardize a man's wife who is a
secret agent, and expose their two young children, and this couple have two
of the most delightful young children that you will ever meet in your life,
and you can assume that this covert agent for the CIA mother has the same
concerns about her children that you would when you are a covert agent and
someone has blown your cover, and then they attack Mr. Wilson's wife.
The President has an obligation that goes beyond simply upholding
this felony laws of America. His obligation to Americans is greater than
that. And he ought to call these people in and say, did you have anything
to do with this? And if they did, he needs to make a decision about their
continued employment. And yet he refuses to do that. That is most troublesome.
You know, there are fifth amendment privileges. There are all of these little
technicalities in the law. This is not a technicality, we are standing up
for the proposition that Americans should not be abused in this regard.
We are running out of time. I want to yield to the gentlewoman
from California (Ms. Watson).
Ms. WATSON. Mr. Speaker, I want to very briefly
take this to another level. And it is about truth and trust. I, as a former
ambassador representing the United States of America, was trained in the
State Department as to confidentialities and secret missions that were taking
place around this globe. The audacity of someone in the Executive Branch
even making reference to a covert agent violates that confidentiality and
puts us all at risk.
It is not something you play with. It is not something you use
for retaliation. When you out an agent, you are outing all of us.
Our intelligence functions on us having operatives in places
where people are plotting against our Nation. Our defense will be in the
fact that they bring that information to us and we prepare our defenses.
If these people are exposed, they no longer can gather the information
that can save lives and property. So I think this is the most heinous act.
I am not even going to get into the debate whether it is prosecutable or
not. But, any leader in the executive branch ought to understand that you
cannot have people there who will leak this information. The safety of all
of our citizens depends on the confidentiality.
Mr. INSLEE. I think the Congresswoman has brought
up another point, and that is, the nature of this agent who is a covert agent
operating under cover for her own protection, and those people, as the gentleman
from New York (Mr. Hinchey) indicated, the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr.
Holt) indicated, the people that she worked with, the people that she had
lunch with in various countries around the world are now suspect.
But it was interesting in the litany of excuses for this misconduct
that we have heard out of the White House for the last few days or at least
their operatives around the country, one of the excuses I have heard is that
the deputy chief of staff, Mr. Rove, did not know that this CIA agent was
a covert agent. He just did not know that.
And, therefore, he wants to excuse that misbehavior since he
did not know she was covert. Maybe she could have been just a receptionist
at the front desk. There is a problem with that. When you out a CIA agent,
you darn well better know whether they are covert or not before you violate
your security clearance in outing that CIA agent.
And unless we hear a real good reason that Mr. Rove asked the
CIA and was told inappropriately or something, there is no excuse for someone
in the highest levels of government, with supposedly the sophistication working
at the right hand of the President of the United States, not to know you
did not out a CIA agent knowing they could be covert.
The damage that has been done here to our security, to Joe Wilson's
spouse, to our trust in the Federal Government, was occasioned, regardless
of the intention of the deputy chief of staff, one way or another there has
been an abuse of both the family and our sense of national security.
Ms. WATSON. Mr. Speaker, there is no way that a deputy
chief of staff in the White House to even mention the name of Ambassador
Wilson, not naming his wife would not know, because she is the one that sent
him over there to Niger.
So how did Robert Novak get the information to print her name in the
press? So I do not buy the excuses. I do not think the American people, knowing
the truth, will buy the excuses. What we have all lost is the faith and the
trust in this administration to deal straightforwardly with the American
people, and as the gentleman has so brilliantly enumerated all the other
misinformation activities involving this administration. We must stop it
and we must stop it now because the reputation of the United States has sunk
to its lowest point.
Mr. INSLEE. Madam Speaker, I thank the gentlewoman for
joining me.
I would like to conclude with a couple of comments. This is
the greatest Nation on Earth, and it is the greatest because it works on
a principle that our citizens should be in control of our democracy, not
people in power.
It works on the assumption that that power will not be abused.
It works on the principle that our elected officials will tell us the truth.
It works on the principles that people's wives should not be attacked when
a person fulfills their patriotic duty to go to Africa and ferret out the
truth.
It works on the principle that people are human and they can
make mistakes; but when they make mistakes, they ought to be candid and forthright
with Americans. And the sooner the President of the United States is forthright
and tells us what happened in this situation, the better off both for the
White House and for us as a whole. And if it refuses to do that, which it
is now stonewalling in its finest tradition of those who were caught red-handed,
it is refusing to give Americans information.
That is why this House of Representatives needs to pass this
resolution of inquiry so that we can have a bipartisan review of what happened
here. Why? So that we can regain the bipartisan trust we need to go forward
with and deal with our pressing problems in Iraq, our pressing problems with
the threat of terrorism, and we can get back on track in this government.
Before I close, I want to thank the Wilson family for their
courage in going to Africa. I want to thank Mrs. Wilson for her courage as
an employee of the CIA. I want to thank them for their courage in standing
up to the administration that has so willfully abused them. And I hope that
the truth that they have worked so hard to bring to the American people will
ultimately prevail in this affair.